tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post7797901837876896312..comments2024-02-19T07:51:46.118-05:00Comments on Throw Grammar from the Train: "Entendre" at the singles barJanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03173219179480606941noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post-84533186399337939722010-05-30T14:32:30.886-04:002010-05-30T14:32:30.886-04:00I think the shift from "idiot savant" to...I think the shift from "idiot savant" to "savant" reflects two things: the desire not to use the stigmatized term "idiot", and the fact that savants aren't necessarily mentally retarded.John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post-84310990166247890382010-05-25T09:09:38.443-04:002010-05-25T09:09:38.443-04:00I run into "savant" much more often than...I run into "savant" much more often than "idiot savant", and I practically never run into "savant" in the old sense of scholar.emptyhttp://voidplay.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post-11725715700067544412010-05-25T00:39:09.304-04:002010-05-25T00:39:09.304-04:00Thanks for the clarification -- I'm not sure I...Thanks for the clarification -- I'm not sure I've heard "savant" to mean "idiot savant," but I believe you -- I just need to get out more.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01579983806826643000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post-86951887405674598002010-05-24T23:45:58.714-04:002010-05-24T23:45:58.714-04:00All I meant to do was to point out a somewhat para...All I meant to do was to point out a somewhat parallel example (which pushes my peeve buttons): just as people use 'entendre' to mean 'double entendre', they use 'savant' to mean 'idiot savant'.emptyhttp://voidplay.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post-4281794992878469152010-05-24T17:52:06.145-04:002010-05-24T17:52:06.145-04:00Empty, you mean "savant" as in "idi...Empty, you mean "savant" as in "idiot savant"? But savant came first ... please explain.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01579983806826643000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post-4482509309059780562010-05-23T22:01:16.919-04:002010-05-23T22:01:16.919-04:00savantsavantemptyhttp://voidplay.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post-7898211366982925212010-05-22T17:20:14.146-04:002010-05-22T17:20:14.146-04:00Huh. The facts are the facts, of course, but to m...Huh. The facts are the facts, of course, but to me <i>entendre</i> would mean, if it meant anything at all, something like 'significance of an expression'. <i>Triple entendre</i>, after all, clearly means 'expression with three meanings'. like the Rush album <i>Moving Pictures</i>, whose back cover (per Wikipedia) "showed a film crew shooting a crowd being moved by movers moving moving pictures".John Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452247999156925669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8811866763970314328.post-5206740284580615652010-05-22T15:59:36.020-04:002010-05-22T15:59:36.020-04:00It strikes me that the use of "entendre"...It strikes me that the use of "entendre" by itself is out of ignorance, and it disturbs me that such ignorance is allowed to eventually prevail. I'm not a prescriptivist by any means, but I think there are some things that shouldn't be bastardized.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com